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How you doing?

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Thank you, people.

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Hello, down there.

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How are you?

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you. I appreciate that.

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Thank you, people.

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Well, thank you.

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Glad you're in a good mood. It's a
somber day. This is the anniversary of

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one of the most important events in
American history. This is the 25th

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anniversary when we were attacked at the
World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

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There were ceremonies commemorating it
in New York.

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Four ex-presidents went. Trump and Pete
Hagseth went to the Pentagon, which was

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also attacked, where Trump said, we will
never forget who attacked us on this

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day. Canada.

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And Pete Hegseth, he was even more mad
about it. He said, these terrorists

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tried to destroy the Pentagon, and that
is my job.

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Oh, it was a very bizarre week, I
thought, in politics.

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First of all, we found out that AI is
going to kill us all, because I've been

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saying.

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But we'll get to that on panel. We've
got hours to live.

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And in the midst of that, and...

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On the two days when the NFL kicked off
their season, Trump decided to have a

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midterm convention, which, by the way,
is not a thing.

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We don't do that.

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Okay. But he wanted to assure the
voters, his voters, that with him as

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president and both houses, you know, a
Republican majority, everything people

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were worrying about, inflation,
affordability, corruption, the war,

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would be solved, which would be a great
selling point, except that's what we

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have now.

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He said the affordability crisis is
fake.

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Fake.

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You're not paying more for beef. That
cow is lying.

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But listen.

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He has a solution to the affordability
crisis.

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He listed a lot of new proposals and
then just went, you know what, fuck it,

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I'll give you five grand.

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That's it.

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Really.

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That was the big take from the
convention, the midterm convention.

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That's really the solution we have. If
you vote Republicans in, the government

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will hand out to everyone $5,000.

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You know, to fight socialism.

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I... I gotta say...

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In a country that is already haves and
have-nots, this is a little bit of a

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scattershot approach.

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To get the money, all you have to do is
just be an American adult and be alive.

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So, Mitch McConnell, your move.

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Oh, we kid. We kid with love.

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And mind you, mind you, the point of
this convention was to show what great

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shape the Republican Party is in.

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And then the big idea was, I'll give you
five grand.

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You know the part of the movie where the
crackhead is so desperate he says, I'll

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suck your dick for a dollar?

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It's like that, but in politics.

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Five grand for everybody.

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Makes you kind of miss the innocent days
when we bribed him.

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And I thought this was really, on top of
all this, kind of weird. He's now saying

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that if the five grand doesn't move the
polls, he'll take everybody furniture

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shopping? I... Oh, no one remembers
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I'll tell you later.

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And this really happened this week in
America, which used to be a real

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country.

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At the convention, he made everybody...

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put their hand up and do a new Pledge of
Allegiance. I brought it word for word

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because I just don't want to... This is
the President of the United States, and

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this is what he had people say.

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I pledge to the greatest president in
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loves us so much that he can't even
breathe that I will go out with my

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family, my friends. I'll do it anyway. I
don't care if I'm registered or not. I'm

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going to try and cheat like hell like
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with liberty and justice for all.

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I... I got nothing anymore. I don't...
And of course, of

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course, Trump had to claim that the
convention hall was packed, even though,

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you know, if you ignored the empty
seats, yes, it did look packed.

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Of course you went against football.

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You went against the opening two nights
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Wow, the one thing that people still
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Trump's convention on Fox News got less
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regular night.

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And I'm the low ratings dummy?

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And here's an interesting sidelight to
the story in Dallas, where they could

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mention one's Grindr, which I'm sure you
know is the... Apparently you know

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really well.

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Well, yes, it's the gay hookup app, and
it crashed in Dallas while the

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Republicans were there.

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I am not making any insinuations about
whether that's a coincidence or not, but

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I will say this. The most popular
prostitute name that night was Big

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Beautiful Bill.

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So, you make about it what you will.

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And if you want to look to the future
about this, the convention did look a

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bit of a coronation for Vice President
J.D. Vance. He made a speech. He was

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interrupted by a protester waving an
American flag.

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And he came back with, if you love
Mexico so much, why don't you get your

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ass over there? And the guy said, I
would, but I can't afford gas.

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All right.

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What a great show. We have Sarah
Longwell and Max Brooks are here. But

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first up...

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Oh my gosh, a four-time Super Bowl
champion, Pro Football Hall of Famer,

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whose new book, Looking for Terry, a
memoir, comes out October 13th. Terry

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Bradshaw, there he is.

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The one, the only, the greatest. How are
you?

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How's it going, man? Oh, what a great
pleasure to meet you. Good to be here.

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Such a big fan. Thank you.

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Thank you, Terry.

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All right. Thank you. Yes, Terry.

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I hope I didn't overdress. No, no.

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Comfy? Comfy? I remember that time you
came out of the Tonight Show with your

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fly down, so I was... As long as it was
up... When I did that show, I

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asked, could I do stand-up?

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And Jay said, yeah, because CJ do it all
the time, you do it. I said, you know,

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can I do stand-up? He says, I'll give
you three minutes.

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And so I went out there, and the whole
time I'm telling jokes, my fly's open,

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and they're laughing at my fly being
open. And I turn around to tell him I'm

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killing it. And he's got a sign. He's
holding a sign saying, your fly is open.

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So much for that. See, this is the guy I
always see on TV.

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The energy. How old are you now? 78.

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Look at the energy in this guy.

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And your book.

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Fantastic book. Thank you. I mean, it's
your second one you've written, and it's

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really a lot deeper because it goes into
a lot of things in your life that we

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didn't know about you. I mean, the theme
of the book is kind of the person

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America knows is not exactly who you
really are.

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What if I like the other guy?

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The other guy. What if I like the person
America knows? Well, the people, the guy

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that you see on television, that's me. I
just don't go around.

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talking about depression and divorces
and things of that nature that are very

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upsetting to me. So I don't talk about
those things. I would rather make people

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laugh or have a smile on my face because
when I do the Fox show coming up Sunday,

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I know that people have worked all week
really hard trying to pay their gas

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bill, trying to buy groceries, and
they've stressed out. My job is not to

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go in there and beat this NFL to death.
My job is to say, hey.

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Sit back, relax, and Joseph, let me
entertain you. And that's kind of the

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way I feel.

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But it is interesting that...

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I mean, I've been watching you on the
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Is that when you first started as a
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Yeah, I started in 83 full-time. Okay.
Well, I've never once seen you when you

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weren't, like, on your game, up, happy.
And what I find out from the book is at

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times you were actually quite depressed.

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I mean, that's not exactly the way every
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thing, Bill. Depression doesn't rob you.
You can't control. I can be in front of

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this beautiful audience and have the...
most miserable day of my life. But when

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I come out here, my job is to entertain
them and let them see Joe be all happy.

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You can do that. Right. You can do that.
Well, you can do it. Not everybody can.

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No, no.

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Listen, even though I've been diagnosed
clinically depressed for years and took

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medicines, the key for me was really
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Rehab. I went to therapists for three
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for me was the understanding.

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You know, I got a problem, but I took it
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oh, my God.

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i'm really doing something wrong to be
to be clinically depressed and i don't

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want to be a mug shot because people you
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well i've been doing drugs and i was on
alcohol but i'm clinically depressed you

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see the mug shot and you go yeah i saw
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pretty bad you know so i but i fight i
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Um, I'm a happy guy, so I fight hard to
stay happy. And do you think depression

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came because of CTE? I mean, that's... I
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and that's when they'll find out. Right.
But a lot of players... Right. A lot of

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players do. Right. I mean, this is brain
injury from... Exactly. I mean, let's be

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honest. I mean, you took hits...

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that no quarterback today takes.

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It was a different game in the 70s.
That's why I'm against, like, comparing

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statistics. You cannot... As great as
the quarterbacks are today, they

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don't... And I'm glad that they protect
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the world... But don't sit here and tell
me that they're better than we were in

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the 70s or the 60s, because they didn't
play under the same rules where you got

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slapped on the face, body slammed, and
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couldn't throw. They played bump and
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and throw it all. Oh, he's the greatest
player ever. No, he isn't the greatest

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player. He's maybe the greatest of his
decade, but not ever.

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I don't ever use ever.

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It's just not fair.

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I just used it, didn't I? No, that's
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Yeah, yeah. I agree.

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No, no, no. I mean, if you're, I mean,
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replay, you have a lot of completions
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Right? On the other hand. You think so?
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Right?

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Now we have high def.

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We have 20 tape machines, 30 cameras.

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Let's slow it down.

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We're even under the ball where they
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my God.

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That looks like his jersey moved.

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I know. I hate that. And they go, flag!

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I know.

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I hate that. I can't.

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I can't. I don't know. I don't know.
What are y'all getting, $5,000 to be

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here? Everybody getting $5,000 to be
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I have a hard time with that. I do, too.
And the minute an old guy like me says

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anything about the current players or
anything critical of them, pooh, boy,

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you're just. No, fuck that. Wrong is
wrong. Wrong. I agree. They've just made

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the game.

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Super analytical.

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What made the game great, Bill, wasn't
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which is what they're trying to get.
What made it great was collision and

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pass interference and bad calls and the
fans being mad.

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And the artistry.

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Like this.

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Look. Yeah.

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Am I telling it like it is? Yes. Yeah.

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And the artistry of an amazing play. And
sometimes a guy makes an amazing play, a

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catch you can't believe. And you're
right, it wiggles this much as he's

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clutching it. And I want to say, just
have a rule, close enough.

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Close enough. It was close enough. I can
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several pass catchers.

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catches that were made. But now it's the
ground can't cause the fumble. The

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ground caused the fumble. He didn't have
two feet and toe tap. Yes, he did. No,

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he didn't. And they have all these
cameras. And even with the cameras and

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the tape machines now, they still screw
it up. They still screw it up. I don't

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believe in a perfect game. I think I
watched that Ram game last night, and

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that was like the worst preseason game
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Was that bad?

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That was bad. See, but that goes back to
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starters to get hurt so you don't play
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saw the Rams play their first preseason
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And they looked like it. They won't play
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it. I am so against.

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I don't like to hear when Brady's the
best that ever played because he won

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seven Super Bowls. I won four.

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But no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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So I defend my decade, all right? But
when they say he's the best ever, and

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I'm going, well, he... I was 4-0.

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Montana followed me. He was 4-0. Then
Tom came.

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Tom was 7-3.

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7-3 is 4.

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4-4-4.

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There you go.

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Hey, you didn't think I knew general
math, did you? No, I was going to say

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it. And they call you dumb.

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No.

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You're not dumb. I mean, nobody who
plays quarterback, it is the most elite

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position in all of sports. You can't be
dumb to play. I mean, most players, I

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mean, it is obviously a physical game,
and it's much more. Most players are not

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dumb. Well, Gronkowski, he's dumb,
right? No, no. No, no, no. Bill, Bill,

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he might be.

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You know, he was recruited by all the
Ivy Leagues. He's a very smart guy.

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That's what I said. You know? Anyway,
um... But you're... I'm agreeing with

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you. Yeah. Because Tom Brady is awesome,
but, again, he did not have to take the

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heat. Now they have this thing, the blue
tent, that you go into. You would have

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lived in the blue tent. You would have
had a kitchenette in the blue tent.

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Really, right? I mean, now... It...
You...

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You got hurt, but back in my era,
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respected and admired by their team and
by opponents because, hey, this guy's

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tough. He gets hurt, he'll be back in
the game. You know, unless you've got a

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broken bone or something where you can't
move or a knee, but you're back in the

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game. And growing up, the mentality that
I had, which was given to me by the

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coaching staff that I had, was that
you've got to play hurt.

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And so you played hurt, and then if they
could shoot you up, give you a shot,

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then you went. And I remember one year,
I got shot up before the game. I got

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shot up at halftime. Then I wouldn't
practice for two or three days, and then

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I'd go through all the game planning.
Then I'd get shot up before the game and

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shot up at halftime so I could play. And
you just get used to it. We had a line

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of athletes in the Steelers outside the
doctor's.

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hotel room, lined up to get shot up
right before a game. It's crazy.

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It's like, and I remember this one guy,
yeah, I will, Dwight Mad Dog White.

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He was one of my favorite guys, a Texas
guy.

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Played number 78 right defensive end.
I'm in and I get shot up and I'm like,

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oh, oh, oh.

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They finish, and I'm sitting on the side
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next. He said, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah. Get out of the way, you big

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old sissy. Get out of here. Let a man
show you how to take this shot.

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They were going to shoot his big toe up.

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They stuck a needle in that big toe, and
that big sucker, he bitched up like, you

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ain't never seen your life.

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And I'm over here, boy, and I am
laughing. Hey, Mad Dog, how's that shot

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go? Ah!

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So funny.

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So funny.

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I'll just... I'll let you go on it. If
you had to do it again, given all the

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fun, would you... Even with all this,
you would do it again. It's what God

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called me to be. Exactly.

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That's my calling.

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Thank you, pal. Thank you for all the
entertainment on and off the field.

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Terry Bradshaw, everybody.

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All right. Yeah, anytime.

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All right. Let's see that panel.

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Okay. Hi.

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All right, he is a senior fellow at the
Atlantic Council and best-selling author

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whose forthcoming book is called The
First Hundred Hours. Max Brooks, one of

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our favorites, is back here.

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And a new contestant. Great to have you
here. She's the founder and publisher of

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The Bulwark and author of How to Eat an
Elephant One Voter at a Time, Sarah

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Longwell. Sarah, great to see you.

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Um, so, uh...

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I'm not going to talk a lot about Trump,
but I read the pledge.

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I just, I didn't finish really what he
said. After that, he said, you know what

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happens if you don't vote? You go to
hell.

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And I don't want that to happen to you.

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So he cares about us.

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You're a political elector. You both
are. Is this trolling?

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Or is this, I mean, look. This is
desperation.

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Well, yeah, but.

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I mean, I keep saying, does anybody want
to win this fucking election?

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He said, pretend I'm on the ballot.
Isn't this exactly what the Democrats

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want? Yes.

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Yeah, no, this is... Putting Donald
Trump on the ballot right now, when

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you're in the middle of an unpopular
war, when gas prices is now, you get

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diesel up at six bucks, putting Trump on
the ballot is every Democrat's dream.

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This is a time to really go on offense.
I love that he was offering people $5

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,000, because it may shock you to know
this, but he's lying.

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Those Doge checks haven't come in yet.
And unless your name is Natalie Harp,

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you are not getting a check from Donald
Trump.

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Right. But I've also heard this before.
I remember myself, when the Haitian cats

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and they're eating the cats and the
dogs, I remember it being, oh, that's

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it. This is too crazy. And then he won.

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You know, so it's dangerous to...

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Underestimate? Insanity? I don't know.
What I thought was adorable was J.D.

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Vance thinking he's going to be
president.

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He could be. I mean, he could, depending
if we do what we do best, which is screw

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everything up on our side. But the point
of his appointment, the reason he's vice

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president, is because he's a loser.

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And that's what Trump does. That's what
dictators do. All strongmen, all CEOs,

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they always make sure they're
indispensable.

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Right? That they're coup-proof. And the
reason you do that is your second-in

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-command is nobody anybody wants.

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That's why he had Pence.

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That's why we have J.D. Vance.

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He may still win, but I would be shocked
if anybody a few years from now is

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waiting in the Wisconsin winter for four
hours to see J.D. Vance speaking.

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I mean, that... Don't say that about
everybody.

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I mean, what... Just, like...

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There's a generational talent in either
party, like, you know, once every 25, 30

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years. Clinton, Obama, Reagan.

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Other than that, it's always some guy
who you hold your nose and go, well,

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he's less awful than the other guy. So I
don't feel like J.D. Benz is any special

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category. Well, what scares me about
that is if we are sacrificing,

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if we're charging towards a short-term
win at the expense of long-term

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political suicide.

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Because right now the Democratic
coalition is, well, at least we're not

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Trump. But what happens when Trump
leaves, and we've been bringing in some

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really toxic people with some really bad
ideas, and let's say we go to the next

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election, and our platform, there's no
more Trump.

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And our platform is no cops, no borders,
no jails, no private property.

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And communism, you know, he said,
everyone was saying today, oh, he said

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communism a million times.

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I don't blame him. Yeah. I proved it
here when I, just quoting them, just the

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quotes, no editorializing.

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It is communism. When you say we want to
take over the means of production, they

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have quotes say elect more communists,
communism this, communism that,

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essential industries.

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This is not, yes,

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that's what I mean. Does anybody want to
win this? fucking election.

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Now, I think the Democrats have this one
in the bag because this one has to be

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about a referendum on him. We'll get mad
at the Democrats later.

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This one is about you, Donald Trump. And
this thing you mentioned about.

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The Doge money that we were... It's not
coming. No, of course... It's not

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coming. And there was also... There was
also a tariff... Yeah. A tariff dividend

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that was coming. And, you know, I think
I have some standing with the

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conservatives. They always say to me
when they come up to me, they say, I

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know you're not on our team, but, you
know, you respect us. You won't dismiss

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us like that. There's none of that. You
can't come to Thanksgiving.

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That bullshit.

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But I just got to say to you people, I
know you don't like it when I call your

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names and you know you're not that
bright, but when it comes to Trump,

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you're not that bright.

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You're just not that bright.

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It is a cult, and you've got to get a
little smarter.

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I mean, how many times can the con man
run the same con and you still applaud

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for it? I don't get it.

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Let's just go back to this idea. First
of all, I listen to voters all the time

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in focus groups. That's what the book's
about.

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On the J.D. Vance question, the thing
that's different about J.D. Vance is

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Republican voters in the focus groups
say things like, you know, I just don't

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like his face.

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Or I just, I don't, I think he seems
weird.

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And that's very different from the
parasocial relationship that Donald

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Trump has had for so long. And just the
fact that... Nothing about him weird,

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huh? Trumpapalooza. But, like, why was
it in Dallas?

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He had to do that in Dallas because they
right now have a Senate race that

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Republicans might lose in Texas to a guy
who once said that there were six

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genders. Like, that is a crazy situation
for Republicans to be in right now.

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Okay. Well, it's all kind of moot
because we're all going to die. Now,

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I... I... Nothing more

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annoying than the guy, I told you so,
the world is ending. But...

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I have been that guy.

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I've been saying this for quite a while.

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I'm based on this, on what Bill Gates,
Bill Gates, yeah, Bill Gates recently

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commented, but Elon Musk said in 2014,
he said, this is the thing I'm most

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worried about. He was way ahead of this.
What happened to you, Elon Musk, by the

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way? Your hair was on fire. I guess you
put it out.

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Because this is what we found this week.

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A guy named Jacob Coxon worked for both
OpenAI and Anthropic.

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I resigned from Anthropic today, he
said.

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This was big news. Spent the last three
years doing research.

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Neither company is acting responsibly.

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They do not understate the power of this
technology.

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There will soon be superhumans that can
hack anything.

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And he said we may be gone.

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Four years before the end of the... I
literally saw this... Do you have this

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headline from the New York Post?

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All AI Wiz sees humans gone in few
years.

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This was on page five.

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Yeah. Not even the headline.

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And this is not new. This is something
that we have known for some time that it

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could wipe us out because it has no soul
because it's been programmed by people

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who have no soul.

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Well, how can you... I don't...

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I mean, my favorite thing about this
story was that you know, that person

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quit, came out like it was a big
bombshell, and instead of saying, oh,

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this is just some junior employee,
don't, you know, ignore him, he came out

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and said, yeah, no, he's right. It's
true. We might all die in fewer than...

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There's a 10% chance we might all die in
the next couple of years. And this has

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been our problem since day one. We have
failed to be tough on them and regulate

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them because they're not going to
regulate themselves.

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You know, expecting the tech bros to
suddenly care about humanity is like

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expecting my dog not to go... the
mailman's balls.

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They asked Trump about this.

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What?

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About guardrails. He said, it's going to
be fine.

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We'll always have something to stop
them. We'll have a little gear. Boom.

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We don't have a little gear.

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I don't know how close people follow
this, but, like, what's going on now is

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that the robots, we call them the
robots, it's not really the robots, it's

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stuff inside giant data centers, they
are going rogue.

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They are doing things on their own.
They're disobeying our orders. I wrote

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down, just so we don't get into the
weeds, this is a show for the common

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man, just some phrases I picked out from
headlines about this.

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It's broken out.

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mounting assaults on other computers,
hacked into other computers, took over,

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bypassed, ignored prompts, colluding in
secrets, no longer entirely in

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human control.

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Do you see a pattern?

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Are we getting the gist of this?

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It's on its own now.

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And I don't know if you can put the
genie back in the bottle. There is no

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little gear you can push. The only way
to fix it is with more AI.

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That's the problem. It's too smart.

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We have to send in more AI to correct
the AI that's fucking up, but they then

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wind up colluding with each other.

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Here's the thing that I was thinking
about this today. A lot of us have

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always talked about, at least people
with stage four TDS, we always talk

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about Trump being an existential threat.

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But it's not really that Trump's the
existential threat. It's that there are

440
00:28:21,220 --> 00:28:24,360
existential threats out there. There is
a war in Iran.

441
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,740
There is this AI situation.

442
00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:31,540
And what you need, then, are serious
leaders who can deal with serious

443
00:28:31,540 --> 00:28:36,360
issues. This is a new problem. But we
have a feckless government that is not

444
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:40,000
up to the task of even looking at this
and trying to figure out what's going

445
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,380
on. And I think that's the part that
scares me, is there are no adults in the

446
00:28:44,380 --> 00:28:45,960
room now to navigate this.

447
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,300
There is hope. Have you heard of the
Frontier Act?

448
00:28:49,740 --> 00:28:54,220
No. Okay, so the Frontier Act is just
being written, and it's going to start

449
00:28:54,220 --> 00:28:58,680
to make its way through the Senate, and
it is the federal AI regulation bill.

450
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:04,080
And whether we know whether it has teeth
or not will depend on how much the tech

451
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,440
community fights it. It's like FDR used
to say, judge someone by their enemies.

452
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,060
And so if the tech community says, oh,
no, I think it's really great, I think

453
00:29:13,060 --> 00:29:16,080
it's going to work out, then we know
that they've partially written the bill.

454
00:29:16,780 --> 00:29:20,460
If they fight it tooth and nail, and
they call it socialist, communist,

455
00:29:20,660 --> 00:29:25,800
communism, then we know this is actually
something with teeth. We don't know

456
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,220
what's in the bills that are about the
stuff we know.

457
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,600
We don't know what's in the highway
bill. Right.

458
00:29:32,170 --> 00:29:36,610
Who the fuck will know whether this is
real or not? We don't understand this.

459
00:29:36,690 --> 00:29:40,410
They themselves don't understand it.
This is what this guy was saying. We

460
00:29:40,410 --> 00:29:43,050
ourselves don't understand it. It's
already passed there.

461
00:29:43,290 --> 00:29:45,570
Who I'm mad at is regular people.

462
00:29:45,890 --> 00:29:49,330
Now, regular people are sort of like
rebelling a little bit, but they're

463
00:29:49,330 --> 00:29:50,670
still loving their AI.

464
00:29:50,890 --> 00:29:55,210
And just by what's in your own phone,
forget all this highfalutin stuff.

465
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:56,730
We know it's a liar.

466
00:29:57,330 --> 00:30:00,270
It definitely lies. And then when you
catch it, oh, sorry.

467
00:30:01,790 --> 00:30:04,950
Well, I can get that from people. I
don't need that from a machine.

468
00:30:05,550 --> 00:30:06,790
It gets stuff wrong.

469
00:30:07,390 --> 00:30:08,650
It hallucinates.

470
00:30:08,970 --> 00:30:10,670
It's a fucking ass kisser.

471
00:30:10,930 --> 00:30:12,630
You know, it tries to seduce you.

472
00:30:13,050 --> 00:30:18,890
I didn't want it in my phone, so I got a
whole separate phone to have it, just

473
00:30:18,890 --> 00:30:22,090
that, because I don't want it seeing my
pictures, my emails, you know. Yeah,

474
00:30:22,090 --> 00:30:22,889
that'd be tough.

475
00:30:22,890 --> 00:30:24,930
Maybe that'd worry him. What are you
saying about it?

476
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:28,510
And anybody would feel the same way.

477
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,040
So I said, you know what?

478
00:30:30,420 --> 00:30:33,020
You know what? Because I didn't like the
way he was talking to me. You know, it's

479
00:30:33,020 --> 00:30:35,820
just like too much of an ass kisser. I
said, like, I'm not in the lonely

480
00:30:35,820 --> 00:30:38,420
generation. I don't need a friend. Just
give me the information.

481
00:30:38,860 --> 00:30:40,360
It couldn't do it. I said, you know
what, dude?

482
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,640
You can talk like anything. I can ask
you to talk like a British lady or

483
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:44,800
whatever. Talk like a robot.

484
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,820
It hung up on me.

485
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,520
Yeah. No, I'm joking.

486
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,260
But this is the way I think they should
all.

487
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:59,200
have to talk like old robots in movies,
because then we'd be reminded they're

488
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,820
robots. I made a little piece to show
you what they should sound like.

489
00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:03,860
The plan was successful.

490
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,620
Malfunction. Need input.

491
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,540
Thank you, ma'am. Good night, ma'am.
I'll clean it up for you, bully.

492
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,740
Someone isn't going to like that.

493
00:31:14,420 --> 00:31:16,800
That's what your AI should sound like.
All right.

494
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,100
So, uh, my, uh...

495
00:31:22,659 --> 00:31:28,260
My generation was in the news this week
because boomers apparently are partying

496
00:31:28,260 --> 00:31:32,460
really hard. It's funny, you know, your
father's generation raised my father's

497
00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:35,120
generation, the World War II generation.

498
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,500
And what they said about my generation
was that we were soft. That was the two

499
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:40,500
things they used to always say.

500
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,920
if they only saw what was coming. I
mean, we're the fucking Navy Seals

501
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,800
compared to what came after us. They
said we were soft and that we would

502
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,480
never grow up. Well, they're so right
about the second one. Because apparently

503
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:58,020
the statistics, the boomer generation
drinking more than previous generations

504
00:31:58,020 --> 00:32:00,120
at that age. Pot.

505
00:32:00,380 --> 00:32:01,380
Never quit pot.

506
00:32:03,060 --> 00:32:04,580
I didn't. Why would I?

507
00:32:05,740 --> 00:32:08,720
But they're also on screens, just like
the kids.

508
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,080
And they have more STDs than ever.

509
00:32:11,620 --> 00:32:14,180
Gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, way up.

510
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,880
So I got a hold of ARP magazine. You
know, that's the magazine they send you

511
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,580
whether you want it or not when you
retire.

512
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,900
Oh, yeah, there's a real one, Adam
Sandler, on the cover. It starts when

513
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:28,660
you're 50, you know, and you can't stop
it from coming. But I guess they've

514
00:32:28,660 --> 00:32:32,240
taken notice because they have some
articles. We'd like to see the new ARP

515
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,220
articles that are apparently based on...

516
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,640
Disinformation.

517
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,700
Four tips for vaping while on oxygen.

518
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,020
Well, that's going to be good.

519
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,820
Rolling on Molly, which wheelchair is
right for you?

520
00:32:54,660 --> 00:32:57,100
It's about time. Large print tattoo.

521
00:33:03,679 --> 00:33:06,060
Dear Rob, can I send dick pics by mail?

522
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,000
Every night she fucks a stranger.

523
00:33:13,220 --> 00:33:15,280
What to do when your wife is a slut with
dementia?

524
00:33:23,060 --> 00:33:24,280
It's not your imagination.

525
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,340
Today's porn is hard to hear.

526
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,220
Where to eat early at Burning Man.

527
00:33:41,980 --> 00:33:46,400
Quick impression, Amber Heard and seven
other sabers for when you crap the bed.

528
00:33:51,060 --> 00:33:53,480
And, uh, what now?

529
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,460
Dolly Parton was my hall pass.

530
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,680
All right.

531
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,080
I want to talk about the military
because you are a military expert, and I

532
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,159
want to get your feeling on both of you,
of course, but you followed this very

533
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:16,880
closely. Pete Hegseth over there at the
Pentagon is really taking out a lot of

534
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,040
military leaders, not in Iran, here.

535
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,600
And I just don't get it. I mean, now,
look, I'm not in the Pentagon. I don't

536
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:31,900
know. What I read was that 10% have been
fired. Now, maybe 10% is a reasonable

537
00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:34,860
number. There is... bloat in the
pentagon there certainly is in the

538
00:34:34,860 --> 00:34:39,480
budget i don't know but some of the
people when you read about these people

539
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,679
that he's taking out army secretary dan
driscoll he's 38 he this guy knocks

540
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:49,800
dicks in the dirt for a living and has
for 20 years i mean his pronouns are he

541
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,980
man these these are not like he's a
republican from north carolina these are

542
00:34:55,980 --> 00:35:00,520
not like the maybe it was too woke
everything did get a little too woke

543
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,860
under biden but

544
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,620
I mean, I just don't understand what's
going on, and maybe you can explain. No,

545
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,400
I mean, I think we're in really, really
dangerous waters, because I think what

546
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,060
most people don't understand, that there
is no military on Earth that has worked

547
00:35:15,060 --> 00:35:18,240
harder to be apolitical than the U.S.
military.

548
00:35:18,460 --> 00:35:22,200
And that goes back to the days of George
Washington, where our founding fathers

549
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,820
understood what brought down the Roman
Republic were generals having their own

550
00:35:25,820 --> 00:35:26,820
private armies.

551
00:35:26,980 --> 00:35:28,600
That's why the oath is to the
Constitution.

552
00:35:29,340 --> 00:35:30,340
not the president.

553
00:35:30,540 --> 00:35:32,660
We've put in safeguard after safeguard.

554
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,420
That's why there has never been a mutiny
aboard a United States naval warship.

555
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,300
Never. That is on purpose.

556
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,340
And if you start to degrade those, we
are going to go back to the days of

557
00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:47,260
Vietnam. And I know a lot of retired
generals who were young lieutenants in

558
00:35:47,260 --> 00:35:51,500
Vietnam and had to wear a gun on their
hip in the barracks around their own

559
00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:52,900
guys so they didn't get shot.

560
00:35:53,420 --> 00:35:54,520
Fragging. Fragging.

561
00:35:55,020 --> 00:35:56,580
Do we want that to come back?

562
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,600
Do we want there to be a mutiny aboard a
U.S. naval warship? Do we want just our

563
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,260
talent to leave? You know, we forget the
average general has more classroom time,

564
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,200
not just battlefield, classroom time
than the average brain surgeon.

565
00:36:10,540 --> 00:36:14,040
And they have worked so hard for so long
to be apolitical.

566
00:36:14,580 --> 00:36:18,240
I've worked and lived around them for a
long time. I don't know who they vote

567
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:19,218
for ever.

568
00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:24,000
They've never talked politics around me
because they know that that is a dark

569
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,000
road to go down.

570
00:36:25,420 --> 00:36:29,540
Well, we do know who they vote for more
than they vote. This is another reason

571
00:36:29,540 --> 00:36:32,820
why this is so insane. They vote
Republican more than they vote Democrat.

572
00:36:33,020 --> 00:36:34,020
And that's okay.

573
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:38,380
But it doesn't inform their actions as
military officers.

574
00:36:39,140 --> 00:36:44,780
I mean, and also the racial aspect. It
does look like he's firing just a lot of

575
00:36:44,780 --> 00:36:46,800
the black people and women.

576
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:52,840
And this, you know, the military was one
of the greater successes we've had in

577
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,709
this country.

578
00:36:53,710 --> 00:36:57,110
in racial matters. I mean, there's
certainly racism in the military, I'm

579
00:36:57,110 --> 00:37:01,470
sure, and there certainly has been over
the years. But it was a place where more

580
00:37:01,470 --> 00:37:04,230
than in many other places over the
years, and I'm especially talking

581
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:07,430
decades past, where black folks could
feel like, well, I can advance.

582
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:08,850
And it's not accidental.

583
00:37:09,170 --> 00:37:13,510
You know, we used to have horrible race
riots in the U.S. military, but when the

584
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:14,650
military was segregated.

585
00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:18,750
Because when you saw someone as other
and a group of black soldiers and a

586
00:37:18,750 --> 00:37:22,150
group of white soldiers would bump into
each other, there was bloodshed.

587
00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:25,900
the racism and the racial violence
actually went down when we integrated.

588
00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:31,400
And there has been an incredible
conscious effort in all branches of the

589
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,920
service to make it what the rest of us
should be striving for, which is a

590
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,920
meritocracy.

591
00:37:36,780 --> 00:37:41,300
The crazy part to me is that they are
firing people while we're actively in a

592
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:44,680
war that they can't seem to get out of.
You know, one of the things that I was

593
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,920
thinking about is back when Don't Ask,
Don't Tell was in place, one of the

594
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,480
reasons they got rid of it was because
the gay people they were firing, many of

595
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,360
them were interpreters. They needed
them. They need these people right now

596
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,300
that they're firing just because they're
black or because they're women. And Pete

597
00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:03,480
Hegseth, who was like a failed, you
know, the weekend host on Fox News,

598
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,000
who's now running the largest army in
the world.

599
00:38:06,380 --> 00:38:07,380
that it's too woke.

600
00:38:07,940 --> 00:38:11,740
Actually, we could really use a lot of
these people right now. And again, to

601
00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:16,160
your point about the discipline in this
organization of ours, this military, the

602
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,920
fact that they haven't rebelled against
Pete Hegseth. They're like, what do you

603
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,280
think they say in private when they're
sitting in the mess hall about Pete

604
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,600
Hegseth? Boy, what a great move that was
to put the Fox News guy in charge of us.

605
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,860
You think that's what they're saying?
No, but these are not the types of

606
00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:35,120
people who just, you know, at the drop
of a hat, walk out of the room.

607
00:38:35,550 --> 00:38:38,230
They're the tough guys, and they're
going to tough it out.

608
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:42,650
But, boy, the other thing that they're
doing, which is crazy, is some of these

609
00:38:42,650 --> 00:38:47,130
people that they're firing are the ones
who, they're called drone guys.

610
00:38:47,630 --> 00:38:51,450
Yeah, because they understand that
that's the future. The future is the

611
00:38:51,450 --> 00:38:53,890
present. We've learned this from the
Ukraine war.

612
00:38:54,250 --> 00:38:56,870
And this is who Trump is getting rid of.

613
00:38:57,470 --> 00:39:03,110
And the drone people... This is the
danger that happens in all autocracies,

614
00:39:03,110 --> 00:39:06,750
which is where we're sliding, is you
choose loyalty over competence.

615
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,120
And that's been the problem. That's why
Putin couldn't win in Ukraine.

616
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,520
That's why when the Chinese have war
games, both sides win.

617
00:39:14,260 --> 00:39:18,080
It's because it's not about that. It's
not about who's the best general. It's

618
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,780
who's the best ass-kisser.

619
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,220
It's why when Hitler invaded the Soviet
Union, Stalin thought, oh, shit, I have

620
00:39:24,220 --> 00:39:27,980
to go back in all the prisons and grab
all the generals I didn't shoot, because

621
00:39:27,980 --> 00:39:29,940
they're the only people who know how to
fight a war.

622
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,220
Yeah, and we don't know how to fight a
war, apparently.

623
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:38,100
All right.

624
00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:42,720
I've got one more issue to pretend that
we're living in a normal country.

625
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,540
There's a lady named Karen Parkinson.
She's in Virginia, and she sent her kid

626
00:39:48,540 --> 00:39:53,260
out to take a walk for a half a mile
along a pond because the kid likes to

627
00:39:53,260 --> 00:39:57,940
collect feathers from the goose, the
geese, gooses, whatever it is out there.

628
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:03,220
And five minutes later, she was
arrested. The three cop cars show up.

629
00:40:03,220 --> 00:40:07,340
And I just read this story, and it's not
the first story. There was another lady,

630
00:40:07,420 --> 00:40:10,300
I think her name was Brittany Patterson,
who sent her kid to the store.

631
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:16,120
Compared to how I grew up, I mean, every
day I was looking for goose feathers or

632
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,740
something. I mean, I came home every day
from school, and, you know, everybody my

633
00:40:20,740 --> 00:40:25,500
age or even Gen X, I think, understands
this. And Mom didn't even want to know

634
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:26,399
where you were.

635
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,720
Where are you going? Fuck you, where am
I going?

636
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,020
I'm doing... I'm living my life.

637
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,380
I'll do whatever you do between 3 and 6.
I'll be home for dinner.

638
00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:39,360
And what annoys me about this, what I
think is...

639
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,380
What is so wrong is that you're not
allowed to have this alternative way of

640
00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:49,540
parenting, which we used to call
free-range parenting. It is literally

641
00:40:49,540 --> 00:40:53,800
against the law. Now, you can make a
case that I think it's more safe to lock

642
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,900
my kid inside and sit him in front of a
screen, because that's what's going to

643
00:40:57,900 --> 00:41:01,620
happen. I think that's the worst way to
raise a kid. But I get it.

644
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,880
But to make it illegal to raise your kid
the way you want to, which is to let

645
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,380
them... Obviously, there are...

646
00:41:10,109 --> 00:41:13,790
places we could go, whether it be too
far. But just to walk a half a mile by a

647
00:41:13,790 --> 00:41:14,790
pond?

648
00:41:14,910 --> 00:41:18,390
I think that's crazy, but I like you.
It's also a gated, it was a gated

649
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:19,570
community with security.

650
00:41:19,870 --> 00:41:24,150
The security guards are the one that
sort of found the kids. They clearly had

651
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:27,310
moved there because it was a nice, safe
place where kids could walk around.

652
00:41:27,970 --> 00:41:31,130
It has gone too far, but it was the
security guard that turned them in to

653
00:41:31,130 --> 00:41:31,769
the cops.

654
00:41:31,770 --> 00:41:36,070
Right, and can we talk about, can we
work back from what is the actual threat

655
00:41:36,070 --> 00:41:39,090
when you look at things that could
really go wrong? What could, was it a

656
00:41:39,090 --> 00:41:40,090
piranha pond?

657
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:48,570
And, by the way, you can have a happy
medium between free-range and over

658
00:41:48,570 --> 00:41:52,250
-parenting. You have trackers now,
right? I have one in my suitcase.

659
00:41:52,730 --> 00:41:56,490
You could just put it in Spanky's
overalls and say, okay, go to the pond,

660
00:41:56,550 --> 00:42:00,130
and if I suddenly see the tracker go
into the blue, I'll know there's a

661
00:42:00,130 --> 00:42:01,130
problem.

662
00:42:04,130 --> 00:42:05,130
Right.

663
00:42:05,550 --> 00:42:06,550
That's true.

664
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:11,070
This is the reason that kids are not
prepared to live in the world as they

665
00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:15,170
grow up, right? I mean this kind of it's
not even nanny statism It's just this

666
00:42:15,170 --> 00:42:20,830
arrested development that comes from not
being allowed I was I'm not We're not

667
00:42:20,830 --> 00:42:24,830
the same age, but I you know, I was born
in 1980 All we did was run around in the

668
00:42:24,830 --> 00:42:27,430
woods and nobody knew where we were and
now

669
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,860
I think that both the anxiety of
parents, I've got two boys, but the

670
00:42:31,860 --> 00:42:35,860
anxiety of parents is way up, and as a
result, they hover over these kids, and

671
00:42:35,860 --> 00:42:39,540
these kids never learn how to do
anything on their own, and then they

672
00:42:39,540 --> 00:42:42,640
grow up, you know, and then they become
Pete Hegseth, and they can't fight a war

673
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,640
on their own.

674
00:42:50,260 --> 00:42:54,460
And let's be honest, their answer to
that, and it's a hard one to look

675
00:42:54,460 --> 00:42:57,060
someone in the face and refute, is...

676
00:42:57,420 --> 00:43:01,420
Yeah, but the worst could happen, and
the kid could be abducted and killed.

677
00:43:01,580 --> 00:43:05,500
Yes, that was true when I was a kid,
too, in greater... Because what you're

678
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:08,400
talking about, I didn't live in the
surveillance age. Right. I didn't know

679
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,520
where the fuck we were or what we were
doing. There was no trackers.

680
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,240
Now there is. You can do that. Right.
And we live in a knee-jerk country, and

681
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:21,780
that's my generation of parents, because
apparently all of us were kidnapped and

682
00:43:21,780 --> 00:43:22,780
murdered.

683
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,440
And so we...

684
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:30,440
We are so over-parenting when instead
what we should be doing is calibrating

685
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,080
and saying, like we said, what is the
worst that could happen? Okay, it's

686
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,960
collecting goose feathers by a pond.
Okay, well, let's run the numbers. How

687
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,860
many kids were killed by geese this
year?

688
00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:40,940
Geese are mean.

689
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:42,580
They're mean, but are they lethal?

690
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,880
No,

691
00:43:44,260 --> 00:43:48,400
it's not. They're worried about an evil
clown who's out there who will abduct

692
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,460
you. I mean, everything's possible.

693
00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:53,160
By the way, I would put the tracker
right under the skin.

694
00:43:53,710 --> 00:43:55,430
Not in the... Just dart them.

695
00:43:55,630 --> 00:43:58,890
What? No, you can do that now. But you
said it. You said it's a gated

696
00:43:58,890 --> 00:44:03,270
community. It's not White Vanville,
where they're just all strangers with

697
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:04,270
candy waiting.

698
00:44:06,010 --> 00:44:10,230
No, I mean, when I was reading about the
Lindsay Clancy case, I kept reading

699
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:14,770
about parents, so many, who go on
record. I mean, they make TikToks and

700
00:44:14,770 --> 00:44:16,290
saying they hate being a parent.

701
00:44:16,730 --> 00:44:19,090
And I'm like, but you did this to
yourself.

702
00:44:19,470 --> 00:44:23,310
I'm not surprised you hate being a
parent because you created this system

703
00:44:23,310 --> 00:44:24,390
where you could never be alone.

704
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:27,130
My parents had time alone.

705
00:44:27,550 --> 00:44:30,690
Get the fuck out of here. And we did.
You know, it wasn't a problem.

706
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:33,650
You can never be alone.

707
00:44:34,490 --> 00:44:35,490
And...

708
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,320
Everything is a negotiation with a
child. Of course you're exhausted.

709
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,820
You can't have that situation with a
child. It'd be like having it in the

710
00:44:43,820 --> 00:44:47,420
military. Imagine if the military, you
had to ask the soldiers, what do you

711
00:44:47,420 --> 00:44:48,680
think, guys? You want to go into battle?

712
00:44:49,340 --> 00:44:53,560
It's the same with kids. You can't ask
them everything. Just do it. Get out of

713
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,700
the car. Get in the car. We're leaving
now.

714
00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:57,420
And I'm not a parent.

715
00:44:57,820 --> 00:45:00,940
You've got to let them live a little
because the AI is going to kill us soon,

716
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,940
and so they've got to get out there and
do something. Exactly. All right.

717
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,280
Thank you, panel. Time for New Rules.

718
00:45:11,540 --> 00:45:12,540
All right.

719
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,600
New Rule. If you continue with a wedding
despite water up to your waist from the

720
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,160
flood that took out your church, it
means two things.

721
00:45:23,380 --> 00:45:25,480
One, the bride is pregnant, so you
better hurry.

722
00:45:27,700 --> 00:45:30,140
And two, if her water breaks, no one
will know.

723
00:45:36,750 --> 00:45:41,850
enough time has passed since the Paris
Hilton sex tape came out in 2004 that

724
00:45:41,850 --> 00:45:46,390
they have to explain why it opens with
in memory of 9-11 we will never forget

725
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:50,650
great just the message I need when I'm
trying to come

726
00:45:50,650 --> 00:45:54,570
actually

727
00:45:54,570 --> 00:46:01,350
actually the tape needs a second
dedication to married

728
00:46:01,350 --> 00:46:03,810
men everywhere who only get blown on
their anniversary

729
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:18,600
the influencer who died after his penis
enlargement procedure in Thailand must

730
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,540
take solace in the fact that he's more
influential now than ever.

731
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:27,660
Because there are thousands of young men
who are going to get penis enlargement

732
00:46:27,660 --> 00:46:30,440
surgery, and because of you, now they're
not going to.

733
00:46:31,260 --> 00:46:32,880
Well, at least not in Thailand.

734
00:46:41,820 --> 00:46:45,440
Someone has to tell the men trying the
new trend of pheromone maxing where you

735
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,020
skip showers in the hope your natural
scent will attract a female.

736
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,620
Good news, this totally works.

737
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,040
On bears.

738
00:47:12,140 --> 00:47:15,840
Now that police have arrested this man
for sharing illicit sexual images of

739
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:21,000
children who went by the username Mr.
Child Porn, have to tell us, what was

740
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,000
the break in the case?

741
00:47:28,940 --> 00:47:32,920
Looking forward to when this case is on
Law and Shit for Brains.

742
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:41,620
And finally, Since it's the

743
00:47:41,620 --> 00:47:47,000
25th anniversary of 9-11, and since for
25 years we've been kept relatively safe

744
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,480
from anything close to another 9-11, how
about a hand for the Americans who made

745
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,480
that happen?

746
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:07,780
Because it didn't just happen. There was
a war on terror, and we won.

747
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,820
And yet, so much has changed since 9-11.

748
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,700
For example, back then, we were against
the terrorists.

749
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:19,300
Really, no cap.

750
00:48:19,620 --> 00:48:26,220
Now, a lot of media outlets don't even
want you to say the T-word. On the

751
00:48:26,220 --> 00:48:30,960
20th anniversary, four American
journalism associations put out guidance

752
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,900
that said that terrorism should only be
used in quotes because it's emotionally

753
00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:37,100
and politically loaded.

754
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,160
Yeah, so is the World Cup, but we don't
put soccer in quotes.

755
00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:53,420
Really? We can't anymore just say out
loud who the bad guys were that morning?

756
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,280
Those 19 hijackers? They shared
something. Oh, let's call it a

757
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,320
worldview. And it wasn't astrology.

758
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,780
But somehow, over time, we've decided
not to harp on that, the whole business

759
00:49:06,780 --> 00:49:08,720
about who wanted us dead and why.

760
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,440
Let's not put a name on it. When it
comes to terrorist attacks, please,

761
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:14,880
there are very fine people on both
sides.

762
00:49:16,740 --> 00:49:22,440
Canadian state TV told its reporters, do
not refer to the September 11th attacks

763
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:23,780
as terrorist attacks.

764
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,120
No?

765
00:49:25,420 --> 00:49:29,080
Even though the very definition of
terrorism is using violence against

766
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,000
civilians to pursue ideological goals,
what should we call it then?

767
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:34,240
Unruly passengers?

768
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,000
A wrong turn taken at the Chrysler
building?

769
00:49:45,860 --> 00:49:49,260
Why not just say the planes and the
towers got into a fight?

770
00:49:51,630 --> 00:49:56,870
I mean, after all, as the BBC advised
its reporters, using the word terrorist

771
00:49:56,870 --> 00:50:00,970
can be a, quote, barrier rather than an
aid to understanding.

772
00:50:01,390 --> 00:50:04,050
You know what's really a barrier to
understanding?

773
00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:05,530
Lying.

774
00:50:14,110 --> 00:50:19,170
Back in 2001, after the attack, I said
this.

775
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:24,700
Political correctness itself is
something we can no longer afford.

776
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,820
Feelings are going to get hurt so that
actual people won't.

777
00:50:30,420 --> 00:50:31,720
Well, it didn't last.

778
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,200
I mean, my show.

779
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:45,620
As for the idea of ditching political
correctness and actually being honest,

780
00:50:45,860 --> 00:50:47,780
that never even got off the ground.

781
00:50:48,190 --> 00:50:50,110
After 9-11, there was a big debate.

782
00:50:50,550 --> 00:50:52,610
Was this a clash of civilizations?

783
00:50:53,310 --> 00:50:58,710
It was, and it still is. Not between
Muslims and Christians. No reasonable

784
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:59,890
person was saying that.

785
00:51:00,090 --> 00:51:06,270
But radical Islamism versus Western
liberalism? Yes, that's a real thing.

786
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:11,610
Fighting people who hate freedom of
religion and hate homosexuals and hate

787
00:51:11,610 --> 00:51:13,970
the idea of women as equal and free
humans.

788
00:51:14,290 --> 00:51:16,930
How did liberals wind up on their side?

789
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,480
And many did.

790
00:51:18,580 --> 00:51:24,060
One in five young Americans now has a
positive view of Osama bin Laden. He's

791
00:51:24,060 --> 00:51:26,060
like Luigi Mangione in a turban.

792
00:51:34,540 --> 00:51:39,620
You hear it in a lot of places now that
the worst thing about 9-11 was innocent

793
00:51:39,620 --> 00:51:41,200
Muslims came under suspicion.

794
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,100
Yeah, where that did happen, it's wrong.

795
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,740
But the worst thing about 9-11...

796
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,740
was 3,000 people got roasted at the
office.

797
00:51:50,300 --> 00:51:55,140
But the prevailing view of so many young
people is that, well, come on, we're the

798
00:51:55,140 --> 00:51:58,440
worst country ever, so if someone
attacks us, that can't be all bad.

799
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:02,020
That certainly wasn't the attitude 25
years ago.

800
00:52:02,260 --> 00:52:05,720
In fact, I know a guy whose show got
canceled just for saying the terrorists

801
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:06,720
weren't cowards.

802
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:16,580
And... And that guy was right.

803
00:52:17,050 --> 00:52:19,130
They weren't cowards, but I'll tell you
who is.

804
00:52:19,630 --> 00:52:22,410
Democratic Party politicians, and I'll
tell you why.

805
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:27,670
Because nowhere has this moral confusion
become more obvious than in a place

806
00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:28,670
called Gaza.

807
00:52:29,030 --> 00:52:33,730
A little strip of land that was not part
of the original Israel, but which they

808
00:52:33,730 --> 00:52:36,970
won in a war launched against them, but
then gave back.

809
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:39,750
Gave back as a peace gesture.

810
00:52:39,970 --> 00:52:42,050
Did they tell you that part on TikTok,
kids?

811
00:52:42,730 --> 00:52:45,150
And the people who run Gaza, Hamas?

812
00:52:45,610 --> 00:52:48,990
who you celebrate as a liberation
movement but are really a terrorist

813
00:52:48,990 --> 00:52:54,250
mafia gang just like the one that
terrorizes Haiti, only ever used it to

814
00:52:54,250 --> 00:52:55,690
stage attacks on Israel.

815
00:52:55,930 --> 00:53:00,070
I think Macklemore spoke for all
clueless celebrities when he said, I

816
00:53:00,070 --> 00:53:01,890
know enough to know this is a genocide.

817
00:53:02,470 --> 00:53:03,910
Actually, you don't know shit.

818
00:53:04,690 --> 00:53:05,690
It's not.

819
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:13,380
It's not a genocide.

820
00:53:13,660 --> 00:53:18,620
It's a counterattack in a war. A war
that's been waged on Israel since 1948

821
00:53:18,620 --> 00:53:23,640
based on the ridiculous premise that
Jews don't belong in the one place on

822
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,560
earth they are indigenous and
indisputably their ancestral homeland.

823
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:30,680
Hey geniuses, they're the Indians in
this scenario.

824
00:53:38,990 --> 00:53:42,610
Ariana Grande reposted that starving
people to death is a red line.

825
00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:45,750
Well, who would know better about
starving, but...

826
00:53:52,650 --> 00:53:57,810
But make no mistake, any famine that
happened in Gaza is because Hamas stole

827
00:53:57,810 --> 00:54:04,330
the food, just like the Haitian gangs
do. Israel ran 94,000 trucks carrying

828
00:54:04,330 --> 00:54:10,570
over 1.8 million tons of aid into Gaza
and enabled over 36,000 patients to

829
00:54:10,570 --> 00:54:15,830
leave Gaza for treatment abroad, which
you TikTok historians might be

830
00:54:15,830 --> 00:54:19,490
interested to learn are not things
countries usually do.

831
00:54:20,060 --> 00:54:25,100
for their enemies during a war, and
certainly not what you would do if you

832
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:26,560
were trying for a genocide.

833
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:40,220
Gaza equals genocide is a lie, an easily
provable lie.

834
00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:44,620
And the fact that so many prominent
Democrats go along with it is, to me,

835
00:54:44,820 --> 00:54:46,540
the party's worst moment.

836
00:54:46,940 --> 00:54:49,800
since they undid Reconstruction after
the Civil War.

837
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:56,420
Democrats are policing their candidates
really hard on this issue. Say it!

838
00:54:56,700 --> 00:54:58,000
Say it's a genocide!

839
00:54:58,360 --> 00:54:59,360
Say it!

840
00:55:00,540 --> 00:55:07,500
You know, with Republicans, there's
something you have to

841
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:11,300
say, even though you know it's bullshit.
You have to say, Trump won in 2020.

842
00:55:11,660 --> 00:55:13,700
This is the Democrats' version of that.

843
00:55:21,250 --> 00:55:24,370
But words do have actual meanings.

844
00:55:24,750 --> 00:55:26,810
Side means to kill.

845
00:55:27,630 --> 00:55:29,330
Fratricide, kill your brother.

846
00:55:29,690 --> 00:55:31,830
Homicide, kill your fellow human.

847
00:55:32,250 --> 00:55:33,750
Suicide, kill yourself.

848
00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:37,970
Genocide, kill or try to kill an entire
people.

849
00:55:38,170 --> 00:55:43,030
You can't just change the definition of
genocide to mean counterattack in a war

850
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:45,350
where people, including civilians, die.

851
00:55:45,610 --> 00:55:46,670
That's every war.

852
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:52,340
There have been about 73,000 deaths in
Gaza, about 3% of the population.

853
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,920
Tragic. Not genocide, not close.

854
00:55:56,300 --> 00:55:59,900
There were 3 million Jews in Poland
before World War II.

855
00:56:00,180 --> 00:56:02,620
After? 45,000.

856
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:04,120
That's genocide.

857
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:09,520
If you're one of the many people these
days asking, this explosion of anti

858
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,040
-Semitism around the world that we see,
where is it coming from?

859
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,240
This. This is where it's coming from.

860
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,380
Because if you really think someone is
committing genocide, of course you have

861
00:56:20,380 --> 00:56:24,640
full permission to hate them. And
history shows, for whatever reason, when

862
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,880
it comes to hating the Jews, people
don't need a lot of permission.

863
00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:32,180
All right, that's our show. I want to
thank my guests, Max Brooks, Sarah

864
00:56:32,180 --> 00:56:33,900
Longwell, and Terry Bradshaw.

865
00:56:34,220 --> 00:56:38,100
Club Random drops every Monday on
YouTube, or listen wherever you get your

866
00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:42,400
podcasts. Now go watch Overtime on
YouTube. Thank you very much, ladies and

867
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,400
gentlemen.

